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issue19


 

  Community United

  News In Brief

  Martin Rowson

  No Room at the Inn?

  The Parish Pump

  Your Letters

  An Actor's Life

  Streets for People

  Dalston Movies

  Coming Off The Street

  The Dervish

  Straight to the Point

  SN's Famous Feminist

  Newington Green

  Clissold Cafe

  Fringe Happenings

  Literary Tastings

  Fishy Business

  Book Reviews

  Arts & Entertainment

  Mr Dickens

  Arctic Fitness

  Chilling Out In Stokey

  N16 Pub & Bar Guide

  Surfing N16

  Wild Pharmacy

  Man in North Bank

  View from the Lane

  Autumn Colour

  XWord



 


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Dear N16

A few comments in response to Stevie’s thirty-three things he/she hates about this borough (Letters, Issue 18).

Anyone who calls the area ‘Stokey’ is too sad for words, especially when they spell it Stokie. Hoxton isn’t Hoxtey and Clapton isn’t referred to as Claptey so what is it with this tabloid press baby talk – been reading Sue Heal again, have you ?

Anyone who hates everyone and everything from three wheeled prams, Vortex and estate agents to prostitutes, junkies and crackheads (same thing, surely ?) and loonies is at best a dreary bloody nimby and at worst a borderline fascist. What’s your favourite fantasy, Stevie, a ‘final solution’ for the action seekers in the cemetery ? Labour camps for the beggars and the kids in hoods ? Anyone who hates the police is up their own arse, a plastic socialist trying to get some street cred.

Anyone who complains that the streets are full of shops selling expensive crap but that there are no jobs is so dumb that they don’t realise that shops actually do create jobs (selling the expensive crap, geddit ?). They are so dumb that even if they managed to discover what agency supplies the council with road sweepers and tried to get themselves a job cleaning the shit off the streets they’d be turned down.

Anyone who thinks people from Hackney never win competitions is paranoid or no bloody good at competitions. Anyone who expressed a desire to watchcable TV needs to get out more. Anyone who thinks the bouncers need bouncers in any of the pubs around here is obviously too scared to get out more. Anyone in this position will be very confused. Anyone who hates him or herself for living here will be no loss. Bugger off.

Yours
John Gardiner, Imperial Avenue, N16

PS. I was glad to read that your bikes got nicked. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving person.


Dear N16

I’m researching the history of the derelict mansion property at the corner of Lordship Park and Lordship Road (73 Lordship Road, formerly known as St Mary’s Lodge).
So far I’ve only been able to find out that:

  • it was built around 1840

  • it was occupied by the William James Crabb (corn merchant) family in the1880’s

  • it was sold by the Church Commissioners to a Mr Cecil Goldey Hyde in 1957

  • by the 1990s it was owned by Hackney Council, who used it as a shelter for homeless single mothers

In 2003 Hackney Council sold the house and the fruit orchard behind it to the Torah Etz Chaim Synagogue in a private sale for £705,000. Despite the preferential price, the only restriction Hackney placed on the property’s future was that the land was to be used for ‘community/educational use’.

Because of the significant modifications done to the mansion over the years, it is not eligible for Listed status. The new owners plan to demolish the structure.
Any info you might have on the history – long past or recent – of St Mary’s Lodge would be greatly appreciated.
Charles Rohrer, chuck.rohrer@virgin.net


Dear N16,
I have been looking at N16 on-line (n16mag.com), an excellent magazine.

My view might be biased because of the article by Rab MacWilliam on page 17 Issue 3, ‘The Growth of Stoke Newington’. By some sort of strange coincidence, I was searching the internet for the Albion Hotel, Stoke Newington but returned a nil result. However, looking for ‘albion clissold, newington’ I found the N16 website and lo-and-behold on the above page a picture of the Albion Hotel.

What is even more interesting is the name over the windows which looks like ‘Williams’. Why was I looking for the Albion Hotel? Just recently I have been checking the 1901 census for my wife’s family. You may have already spotted the connection.

On 31 March 1901 Thomas Williams was the Licensed Victualler at the Albion Hotel. He was there with his second wife Mary and seven of his children. One daughter, Maud, my wife’s great-grandmother, was living in West Ham.

I was wondering if you are able to pass my e-mail onto Rab MacWilliam in the hope that he might know more of the ‘Albion’ and the Williams’ family. For example when did Thomas Williams become and cease to be the licensee? Also would you be able to e-mail me a better quality copy of the picture of the Albion, and any other images of the Stoke Newington area around the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries? I have a broadband connection so file size is not an issue.

Any help that you might be able to offer would be greatly appreciated.
Yours faithfully,
Ian Cruttenden
Email: cruttenden@one-name.org
Website: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.cruttenden


Dear N16

My daughter’s primary education took place at Holmleigh, the best primary school in Hackney, a school so far undiscovered by anyone who regularly appears in print/ the media, and/or on Eastenders. In September 2001 my daughter started at Clapton Girls. Ten days into the Autumn term, and after only one unwitting appearance by my daughter on a Channel Four documentary, I did the only thing left possible to me and became one of the catchment convoy. I moved house. To Northumberland.

Two years later, I’m very happy with my daughter’s school. And I keep in touch with Stokie through n16mag.com on the web. It’s not ideal. No Bar Lorca, no Clissold Park, no pizza delivery. But I’ll be back.. once she’s got her A levels. Did I mention you can buy a 3-bedroom nineteenth century cottage with a paddock for the price of a dog kennel in the sky on Rectory Rd ? And Easyjet fly from Newcastle to Stanstead on the hour. Anyway, must finish, as I have to be home in time for the farrier. The pony needs re-shoeing.

yours traitorously
Sam Potter


Dear N16,
I was born and bred and educated in Stoke Newington, and I still visit there regularly, so I am always pleased to read your magazine. I was very interested in your article ‘Dissent in Newington Green’, since this area has been the home of dissent for many centuries, hence its particular character and history. I should like to add a couple of comments.

First, you could have added that prominent members of the Unitarian Church included the family of Charles Darwin. Second, I find it inappropriate that an article about a Christian institution should gratuitously smear the Jewish State. You refer to a rabbi who wished to ‘make an atonement for the Israeli occupation of Palestine’. In fact no rabbi would make such a statement, unless it was qualified by reminding people that the Jews in Israel are threatened with annihilation and have a right to defend themselves. This is a point that Minister Cal Courtney didn’t wish to pursue, maybe because, as you mention, he does not like to engage in politics.

Sincerely
Charles Heller
32 Bayhampton Court
Toronto Ontario M3H 5L6 Canada

N16 asked Cal for his comments on Charles Heller’s email. This is his response:

I cannot accept that I or my church attempted to gratuitously smear ‘the Jewish State’. Firstly, Israel is not a Jewish State. It is a secular state. Secondly, our record of supporting the Jewish people speaks for itself. Charles Heller can rest assured that all acts of cruelty are challenged in this church, irrespective of the religious adherence of the people involved.

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